'Flummoxing': Expert flags stunning FBI oversight with Epstein's closest associates

Jeffrey Epstein's former attorney and co-executor Darren Indyke might have committed perjury in his testimony to Congress, legal expert Lisa Rubin told MS NOW's Alicia Menendez on Tuesday's edition of "Deadline: White House" — but it's unclear partly because the FBI never bothered to look at him as closely as they should have.

Indyke and another Epstein associate, his accountant Richard Kahn, spoke to Congress behind closed doors, with their testimony only now becoming available. They both claimed to have had no knowledge of the deceased financier and accused sex trafficker's crimes against children — but there are holes in their story, Rubin said.

"We discovered that at least two victims told the FBI specifically that Darren Indyke had instructed them not to talk to law enforcement, not that he said to them that it was their option and that a lawyer would be provided for them if they wanted one," said Rubin.

This pattern of alleged obstruction appeared to extend beyond victims.

"There was also a former personal chef of Jeffrey Epstein's, who also spoke to law enforcement and gave them a very similar narrative that he remembers an interaction with Darren Indyke, during which he was told, do not speak to law enforcement if you are approached," Rubin continued. "That was during a period of time where they were concerned that this particular gentleman might be served with papers and Darren Indyke, according to this man, the former personal chef, told him, if somebody tries to approach you with something, do not accept it."

Yet despite these allegations, legal accountability remains uncertain.

"Is there the possibility, then, Lisa, of perjury here?" asked Menendez.

"You know, it's not clear," said Rubin. "And one of the reasons it's not clear is because Darren Indyke himself was never interviewed by law enforcement during either of those investigations, something that I still find flummoxing, Alicia. And that's true of Richard Kahn as well. As far as I understand it, nobody associated with the federal government, neither the FBI nor the Department of Justice, ever sat down with either of these people. And yet if you talk to people close to the victims or you talk to the victims themselves, it's clear that these were not exactly people that they didn't know to exist. That's particularly true with respect to Mr. Indyke."

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